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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:20 pm?? ?Post subject: Pleasant surprise in the gym...also steroids. Reply with quote

So I found out I've been underestimating my lifts by 30 pounds due to the bar actually being 45 rather then 15 like I thought.

So I been maxing out like 140-60 bench
squat 230~
clean like mid 100s
deadlift 210 max (July 2012)
Also, I was thinking of (just one cycle) to see if anything happens to show it off.

But then I feel like I wouldn't be all natural,like its not real. Though its a cool cheat for just one time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:49 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

No need for drugs at your age. Wait til you're at least in your mid 20s. For supplements, you should try:
A good multivitamin (not lame One-A-Day, go on Puritan's Pride and find one that's like 6 pills)
Magnesium (many people like ZMA and it boosts test naturally)
Vitamin C 1500mg
B Vitamins
Taurine

I really like adaptogens. I like ginseng, schizandra, and rhodiola rosea the most. For a natural test boosting her, try eucommia bark. Another good one is rhaponticum carthmoides, or Maral Root, grows in Russia and was used extensively there. Lots of good very effective herbs around, though I find it best just to buy them cheap individually and not in the form of "bro" BBing supplements.

Also, a couple eggs a day will help boost test naturally, too.

It's really nutty at your age to use, though. You're best off getting to natural potential first. IE, get to a 300lb bench press, use roids and turn it into 500, see? Do the most you can with the least. Also, 5x5, 60-70% of max has been working very well for me. Try it out, or try Sheiko powerlifting routine. Sheiko is high reps, averages around 8 per set.

But no, don't use drugs yet. Use drugs not as your meat and potatoes, but as icing on the cake. Ben Johnson, Olympic sprinter with a 400lb bench press, he was on only 5mg Dianabol a day. Bill March, 1960s overhead pressed 390lbs at 220, 10mg a day. World class people on VERY low doses compared to silly modern bodybuilders. At your age also you risk natural testosterone shutdown as well, or even stunted growth, which isn't good. You're at peak levels for your whole life right now, so achieve what you can naturally and wait on the drugs until you're old. Also, if you do anything athletic there are drug tests for most sports, you get popped, you get banned. Also, if you use steroids, it's very complex, you gotta take anti-estrogens and post cycle therapy and all kinds of fun stuff like that. Your cycle will run you easily $300-500, which if you got no job "Hi mom, I need this money that'll disappear..."

I told you the bar was 45 btw.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:57 am?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

1000Knives wrote:
No need for drugs at your age. Wait til you're at least in your mid 20s. For supplements, you should try:
A good multivitamin (not lame One-A-Day, go on Puritan's Pride and find one that's like 6 pills)
Magnesium (many people like ZMA and it boosts test naturally)
Vitamin C 1500mg
B Vitamins
Taurine

I really like adaptogens. I like ginseng, schizandra, and rhodiola rosea the most. For a natural test boosting her, try eucommia bark. Another good one is rhaponticum carthmoides, or Maral Root, grows in Russia and was used extensively there. Lots of good very effective herbs around, though I find it best just to buy them cheap individually and not in the form of "bro" BBing supplements.

Also, a couple eggs a day will help boost test naturally, too.

It's really nutty at your age to use, though. You're best off getting to natural potential first. IE, get to a 300lb bench press, use roids and turn it into 500, see? Do the most you can with the least. Also, 5x5, 60-70% of max has been working very well for me. Try it out, or try Sheiko powerlifting routine. Sheiko is high reps, averages around 8 per set.

But no, don't use drugs yet. Use drugs not as your meat and potatoes, but as icing on the cake. Ben Johnson, Olympic sprinter with a 400lb bench press, he was on only 5mg Dianabol a day. Bill March, 1960s overhead pressed 390lbs at 220, 10mg a day. World class people on VERY low doses compared to silly modern bodybuilders. At your age also you risk natural testosterone shutdown as well, or even stunted growth, which isn't good. You're at peak levels for your whole life right now, so achieve what you can naturally and wait on the drugs until you're old. Also, if you do anything athletic there are drug tests for most sports, you get popped, you get banned. Also, if you use steroids, it's very complex, you gotta take anti-estrogens and post cycle therapy and all kinds of fun stuff like that. Your cycle will run you easily $300-500, which if you got no job "Hi mom, I need this money that'll disappear..."

I told you the bar was 45 btw.

hey whatever floats your boat, but im pretty sure its like 12 reps of 70%, 10 at 75%, 8@80,5@85.

Apparently my max is 165~, but I do only 123.5(the bar is 43.5 to be precise) for 10.
if i were to do 5 reps, I'd only do like 130
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